Monday, December 11, 2017

Pheaturing Lol Tolhurst

Hey there, kids, welcome to the Phile for a Monday. How are you doing? Better than this person I bet... Mei Rui, a concert pianist and cancer researcher, claims she was kicked off a Spirit Airlines flight from Houston, Texas, to Newark, NewJersey on Friday. The reason? It had nothing to do with the flight being overbooked or Rui acting disorderly, unless you consider breastfeeding your baby disorderly, which it seems Spirit does. The flight had been delayed due to weather, and Rui started breastfeeding her child, to keep him from crying and hopefully put him to sleep, she told the "Washington Post." She said, “Every parent with a young child can image, you don’t want to be that parent on the plane. It would be very embarrassing. I was just trying to avoid that.” Rui told the "Post" that while passengers were still moving around the cabin and the plane door was still open a flight attendant notified her that her baby had to be in his seat for takeoff. In response, Rui asked for "just a couple more minutes" because if she stopped feeding him then, she worried he'd wake up and make noise. She told the attendant, "I promise I'll finish before you close the plane's door." As the attendants considered Rui's request, she stopped feeding her son and he immediately started crying. And then the crew told Rui she would need to get off the plane, according to the "Post." Rui, who was now filming the incident with her camera, asked, reasonably, why she was being told to leave the plane if the baby was already strapped into its seat as requested. Seems like a fair question. Rui told the "Post," “It’s not like I was resistant, I put him in the seat. If they had shown a little compassion, it wouldn’t have happened, they didn’t have to let it escalate.” Rui left the plane as directed, where she was met by police officers and notified that she would not be allowed to re-board. Rui asked a Spirit Airlines rep why she was kicked off the plane, and was told it was because she wasn't "compliant," the "Post" reports. She was given no further details, despite her questions. Rui, who was not only traveling with her son but with her elderly parents, began to say, "If this happened to your family...” before being interrupted by the airline rep, who said, "It wouldn’t happen to my family, I can assure you.” WOW. Rude! That wasn't the end of it. The family's bags weren't immediately returned, and after driving back home, Rui's father had to be admitted to the hospital when he collapsed from heart trouble. Rui told the "Post," “They treated us like we were criminals. A baby crying is not a crime.” But the airline isn't apologizing. A rep for Spirit Airlines told KHOU in Houston, "Our records indicate a passenger was removed from Flight 712 after refusing to comply with crew instructions several times during taxi to runway and safety briefing. To protect the safety of our guests and crew, FAA regulations and airline policies require all passengers to stay seated and buckled during takeoff and landing. We apologize for any inconvenience to our guests. As a courtesy, we’ve issued a full refund to the passenger in question." Where's the spirit in that?
Online retailer is under fire for running an ad for plus-size tights featuring skinny models pulling them up over their entire bodies. Yeah, I can't make this shit up...

Because, you know, nothing appeals more to a target consumer like being body-shamed in an ad. People were furious and confused as to why they wouldn't just hire a plus-size woman to model the plus-size tights. However, others argued that the picture from the ad is not for plus-size tights at all. Multiple people accused of stealing images from a completely different ad selling "magic tights"... tights that won't run or rip if you stretch them. Well, Wish certainly has a lot to explaining to do. First for the fat-phobic ad, and second for potentially stealing images. At this time, the website has not addressed the controversy. While they are at it, they also might want to change their slogan from "make shopping fun" to " make shopping fun for skinny people only. Also, we steal pictures!" Just a thought!
On Friday, Katie Couric broke her silence on the sexual misconduct allegations against Matt Lauer. Since Couric spent 15 years co-hosting the "Today" show alongside Lauer, the public has been curious to hear her thoughts. So curious, in fact, that one Instagram commenter posted an emotionally heated critique on a photo of Couric and her daughter.  Much to the surprise of her Instagram followers, Couric broke her silence and posted a short and succinct response. “It’s incredibly upsetting and I will say something when I’m ready to. Thanks for your interest," Couric wrote. In the weeks following Lauer's firing from NBC over allegations of "inappropriate sexual behavior in the workplace," more women have come forward to accuse the 59-year-old of sexual assault and harassment. In lieu of the growing allegations, old footage of (and about) Lauer has made the rounds on the Internet. One recently resurfaced interview from 2012 shows Couric joking about Lauer's inappropriate behavior towards her. When "Watch What Happens Live" host Andy Cohen asked what Lauer's "most annoying habit" was, Couric answered, "he pinches me on the ass a lot." Hopefully, Couric's Instagram comment indicates she's processing the allegations against Lauer with the intention to speak up. Because there are a lot of questions left unanswered that she might shed light on.
The popular music venue Doctor Brown's in Middlesbrough, England is facing backlash for refusing to book female-fronted rock bands. The pub manager Paula Rees told the "Northern Echo" the rule isn't meant to be sexist, but her customers simply don't connect with female rock musicians. "We had female singers on in the past and customers just didn’t like it... we’re a rock bar and they don’t think that women should sing male rock songs," Rees said. "It’s nothing to do with me, it’s the pub’s regulars who come in every week, they won’t come in if there’s a female singer." So, it appears the sexism in question is more attributed to the bar regulars than the management itself. While the booking policy is passively exclusionary at best and discriminatory at worst, Rees claims the bottom line is the customer. And since her customers don't believe women can play rock music, she's not going to push it. "We have got to keep our regulars happy, I’m not a rock fan so can’t judge myself but I’ve been told that some women can sing and some can’t, but they can’t sing heavy rock. If we put a poster up and our regulars know there’s a woman in the band, they won’t give them a chance... they’re my bread and butter and we can’t risk nobody coming in." Unsurprisingly, people on Twitter weren't too fond of the booking policy. While others in the music scene felt bummed at the coverage of such a negative policy, when so many good bands go without press. This is a fair critique, it's unfortunate the newscycle prioritizes backlash over art. While Doctor Brown's keeps talented female musicians off their stage, the rest of us will be enjoying the sweet aural fruits that so many woman musicians have to offer.
If your Christmas tree says things like "let's build a wall to keep out those Mexicans!" boy have I got the perfect ornament for you... is currently selling a Christmas ornament in the shape of a teeny, tiny MAGA hat. HAPPY! I'll have a RED Christmas, amiright?! This all could be YOURS for only $99, which might seem like a lot of money for an itty bitty hat that you can't even wear unless you're a mouse. But that's because the brass ornament is finished in 14 karat gold! And besides, how many tiny hats out there promise to make the entire United States of America GREAT... again?! Only this one. (JK there are others, some you can even afford!) Well, I'm someone who thinks America was already great(ish) (for some people), and one of those reasons is because of free speech. And currently, Amazon reviewers are using their power of free speech to roast the hell out of this MAGA ornament, while flooding the page with hilarious one-star reviews. Like these...

Other reviewers commented on how the ornament clashes with "ornaments of color" and only wants to be on trees with "white Christmas lights." Now, we can't be certain, but it almost seems like these reviewers may NOT be writing about a hat. But if they are, WOW. Definitely do NOT buy this for your family this holiday season. It sounds like the exact opposite of a Christmas miracle.
I've never been arrested but if I ever do I hope I'm not wearing this t-shirt...

Actually, that's very clever. So, I like to follow the rules but not as much as this person...

Hahahahahahaha. So, if I had a TARDIS I would go back to 1960 but knowing my luck I'll end up seeing this...

Mikita Khrushchev and Indonesian President Sukarno share a cigarette. I bet the food at that dinner was good. So, I was supposed to Google "civil rights act" the other day and ended up Googling "civil rights cats" and this is what I got...

Altogether now... awwweeeee. Parents, I hope you don't get a note from your child's teacher like this one...

Hahaha. Some people are the worst...

So, on Thursday's entry I mentioned the biggest trend this season is women making their breasts look like reindeer. If you haven't seen it, its wonderful.

Hey, you know who likes breasts? Donald Trump Jr. He doesn't know about sexual harassment though...

You know thing that is great about the Internet? You can easily look at porn. Well, the problem with that is if you get tired of one site, say this blog, you might go and look at some naked pics. So, I thought I can show a porn pic here and make you happy. But you could be at school or work and I don't want get you in trouble. So, I came up with a conclusion...

See? Hey, ever go somewhere and see wifi names are creative? Like this...

Hahaha. And now from the home office in Port Jefferson, New York, here is...

Top Phive Real Reasons Russia Was Banned From The Winter Olympics
5. Trump would've had a real dilemma deciding which country to root for.
4. The IOC figured that if Putin wanted a medal badly enough, he could always just take one from a weaker county.
3. A hot mic caught Putin saying what everyone else was thinking: Nobody gives a shit about the Winter Olympics.
2. It was felt that Russia would be better served by focusing its vast cheating energies on wrecking America's democracy.
And the number one real reason Russia was banned from the Winter Olympics...
1. Putin's ice-dancing outfits were just getting too damn sexy.

Ha. If you spot the Mindphuck let me know. Alright, so, there's a comedian that is pretty funny who I have on the Phile occasionally, but the problem is he's so old no one understands what he's saying. well, I'm old as well and I do understand what he's saying. Anyway, he has a new joke and wanted to come back here and tell it. I said sure and I would translate it. So, please welcome back to the Phile...

Me: Hey, Alan, welcome back to the Phile. So, let's hear your new joke...

Alan: Salutations, Jason. A Welchman shitting from a bridge, "Good shit, by Davy," said he, "what a Devil no plump?" for he expected to hear his excrement fall in the water, but all the while shit in his coat-pocket.

Me: What the hell? Okay. Here goes... A man shits off a bridge and is surprised when he doesn't hear it plop. It's because he accidentally shit in his coat pocket. That's so dumb. Do you have another one, Alan?

Alan: John Cross and Joan Cross used to lead hands to shit together, and being one day hard at it, something fell from Joan with an unusual noise; Quoth John, "Do you piss love?" "No," reply'd Joan, I shit honey."

Me: Ugh. A husband and wife go to shit together, but Joan's poop sounds weird. John asks, "Did you pee, love?" She says, "No, I shit, honey." Like she's calling him honey, but she is also jokingly saying she shits honey, so it doesn't make much noise... get it? Alan, good job I guess. Alan Raglafart, the 100-year-old comedian, everyone.

Okay, so, you know I live in Florida, right? Well, some of the craziest stuff happens in Florida that happens nowhere else in the Universe. And a few days ago Trump was in the state which made things even crazier. So, once again here's the pheature called...

The liberal group American Bridge trolled president Trump's Friday night campaign rally in Florida by using Ivanka's criticisms of Alabama Republican and alleged pedophile Roy Moore. While Trump was inside urging a Pensacola crowd to vote for Moore in the special Senate election this week, the Democratic group circled the rally in a truck featuring a mobile billboard of Ivanka's pointed commentary on the alleged sexual predator. The giant digital ad covered all sides of the truck and showed a picture of Ivanka's face alongside a quote from her interview with The Associated Press last month. In the interview, she said there was "no reason to doubt the victims' accounts" and claimed "there's a special place in hell for people who prey on children."

Her statements against the embattled Republican came just days after the "Washington Post" reported that Moore preyed on teenagers in his 30s, with one woman alleging he sexually assaulted her at age 14. The contrast between Ivanka's criticism of Moore and her father's endorsement of him at the campaign rally speak for themselves. Rather than promoting their own critique of Trump's endorsement of Moore, American Bridge saw Ivanka's commentary as a clean vehicle for critique. “Try as Trump and the Republican Party might, there’s no way to escape the truth about Roy Moore or Ivanka Trump’s own words. It’s a disgusting new low that the President, the RNC, and the rest of the Republican Party are trying to help send a pedophile to the U.S. Senate, and the American people won’t soon forget it," American Bridge spokeswoman Allison Teixeira Sulier said in a statement. Meanwhile, while Ivanka's face was bashing Moore's allegations outside the rally, Trump was undermining sexual assault victims in front of a crowd. While Ivanka's critique of Moore is rightfully scathing, President Trump has been accused of sexual misconduct by 19 women, so it's hardly surprising he's backing another alleged predator.

Do you know what net neutrality is? Well, this might be able to help you understand...


Two things happened this morning: An "attempted terrorist attack" in New York City and a Trump tweet shortly afterwards. The two events, to the disappointment of many on Twitter, are completely unrelated.

Wrote "The Daily Show," sarcastically retweeting Trump's morning message. The show films in New York City. Trump instead tweeted about a "New York Times" report from the weekend that alleged he watches between four and eight hours of TV per day.

Some... like former advisor to Barack Obama, Dan Pfieffer... pointed out that the "Times" story, from Saturday, may have caught Trump's attention on Monday morning because it was being talked about on TV. Others were less interested in irony and more interested in the lack of tact (or whatever you call tweeting about television instead of a terrorist attack in your hometown). Trump will probably tweet about the attack later today. The suspect was reportedly the only one hurt in the attempted bombing, when "some sort of pipe bomb or other type of improvised explosive device... either went off prematurely or only partially detonated." According to Sarah Huckabee Sanders, Trump's been briefed on the incident: So we know he didn't just miss the news because he doesn't watch TV.

This is cool! Today's guest is a founding member and the former drummer and keyboardist of British band The Cure and the author of "Cured: The Tale of Two Imaginary Boys," the 71st book to be pheatured in the Phile's Book Club. Please welcome to the Phile... Lol Tolhurst!

Me: Hey, Lol, welcome to the Phile. its so cool to have someone from The Cure here on the Phile. How are you, sir?

Lol: Thanks, Jason. Good to be here.

Me: So, your book "Cured: The Tale of Two Imaginary Boys" is the 71st book to be pheatured in the Phile's Book Club. So, how did you discover you wanted to be a musician, Lol? In the book you said you were bored in the town you grew up in when you were a kid, is that true, and that's why you became a musician?

Lol: Yeah, I just saw a clip of Jim Carrey who is apparently is a really good painter and he just recently discovered he had painting as a talent because he was looking for something else to do. I sent the clip to my son who said, "life choses what you're supposed to do, you don't get to chose it yourself." You can try to do something safer but in the end life tells you what your vocation should be. I agree with that. A part of that is what we had with The Cure because we loves music so much it was impossible that we wouldn't do something with it. Also we had to do something together because Robert and I were friends... if we had wanted to be furniture builders that might've happened as well. But growing up then is not entirely different than the time now, which is a lot of uncertainty about life, and their were two ways out as far as we could see. One was to become a very good footballer and the other way was to form a band. Nine of us were good at football... well, Robert might've made a good football player but that all changed with sex and drugs and rock and roll. We decided the band was to the best way out.

Me: Do you think your suburb of Horley was unique, Lol?

Lol: No, when I went around with the book meeting fans I found out that kind of environment we grew up in exists everywhere. It exits in California, it exists in Cairo, it exists in Paris... it's everywhere. So, that's where people associated and connected with us, they understand the small town suburban angst. Luckily that was the thing we were able to communicate to people. That enabled people to understand us when they didn't really know exactly where we were from.

Me: Okay, so, I love the book, Lol, what made you write it after all this time?

Lol: The real aim with the book I tell people all the time is I wanted to explain my life to myself and I wanted to explain to people how it all started and why it all started, because a lot of people just see us as these guys who played on stage and they don't know who we are as people. I think for me especially, I don't think for Robert is gonna go and write a book about himself. I asked him once if he was ever gonna do a book and he said, "I don't know about book, but maybe a 16 page comic." He was being humorous but he was also being realistic because he was kinda like David Bowie... David Bowie never wrote a book about himself either. I understand why, because on one hand you want people to understand you, but you also want people to understand you in the way you want to be understood. For me I'm quite happy to have an honest conversation with people about who I am. So, I think I was the only person in the whole Cure camp that had ever written a book about that time and about how everything as because number one I was there, and number two I remember most of it, and its always something I felt I wanted to do anyway. I wanted to write, and I had to write this.

Me: So, what does Robert Smith think about the book, Lol? Did he read it?

Lol: I'm not sure, but I said to him four or five years ago I had this epiphany about it one day in 2013, I had to do this, I have to write the story. I said to him don't worry about it, I know where all the bodies are buried, its gonna be fine. That's not what I want to write about, I want to write about to explain to people how it all happened and why.

Me: Did anybody else from The Cure read or know you were writing the book, Lol?

Lol: Simon Gallup knew I was writing the book and said, "If I had one regret, it's we weren't kind together when we were younger. We grew up in a very strange way, and a very strange place, it's kind of inevitable it turned out the way it did with the things that went on. So I guess we have to kind of forgive ourselves," which is what I think.

Me: The Cure was a very serious band I think, am I right? Were you guys all serious and dark?

Lol: When people met us backstage they were always surprised that it wasn't this Batcave with people crying at each other, and lots of velvet curtains everywhere. I think they were surprised that we were quite humorous with each other and stuff. I think they expected us to be a different way, but for me what it boils down to what we did we took seriously. If you take yourself too seriously you are in a danger of disappearing up your own behind. Even now Robert s committed to it on a daily basis, probably to the point of obsession about a lot of things.

Me: In the book you mentioned you guys were "on a mission." What was that mission? You didn't say.

Lol: To a certain extent, and I did try to explain in the beginning of the book, we did have our own kind of culture. There was things we very much liked and things we didn't like. When people make a band the first thing they do is decide all the people they admire and try to play songs like that. If they liked Jimi Hendrix they tried to make a song that sound like Jimi Hendrix, and that's how you kind of start. For us we kind took it from the other way round, we took all the things that we didn't like and stuff we weren't happy about like this over-blown prog-rock and stuff and we thought we won't play that kind of thing so we minimized the drums, we minimized the guitar, and won't have any big guitar solos like most bands at the time and well kind of make it simple in that way. So, with our attitude to most things that, I don't know, for Catholic school boys we were probably un-Catholic in our tastes, we could like something because it appealed to our personalities opposed to being a part of a particular scene. We were never nailed down to one scene because we liked lots of different things. When Glen Campbell passed away I tweeted about it, as I was broken up about it and someone replied, "Really? You had Glen Campbell in England?" They were amazed that I had that connection. I think that's the thing people don't see, some of the stuff we connect, to us it was all a part of us growing up. That was really the way we drew those little threads together, because we liked the same things, the dame stuff in art. We had the motivation to do it because we grew up at the same time music exploded. I always say Jos Strummer gave me there permission to start The Cure. He didn't tell me personally, but seeing the Clash when I was 17 or 18, it totally freed me up. I was like okay, we could do this now, we could do something. Whereas a few years before seeing Emerson, Lake and Palmer, which was strangely enough Keith Emerson before he passed away was one of my neighbors. I interdicted myself through a mutual friend and I told him I went to see him when I was 12-years-old, and it was the first band I ever saw. I told him I went a complete different way, and he said it was funny, because his son's favorite band is The Cure.

Me: So, who were your influences growing up, Lol?

Lol: Robert and myself have older brothers and they kind of introduced us to music through the 60s where it was their time. All that psychedelic stuff filters through our psyche. We would walk past Richard's room, or my brother John's room and we would hear that stuff. I try and be proactive with that with my own son. He's 25 now and I played him all the stuff early and made him go see bands with me when he was younger because they would not be touring at all in the future or be dead. He told me a few months ago he was really glad that we did that, it have him dance notice of stuff that he would of found out about eventually, but he might've not found about until it was too late.

Me: I know what you mean. My dad was the lead singer in Foghat, and he passed but the band still tours, so I took my son recently to see them play, and we used to take him to see them play when he was a baby. Even though my dad is not in the band or on this planet anymore at least Logan gets to hear his grandads songs played live and see the audiences reaction to those songs. Anyway... You know what is crazy? I can't think anybody has tried to copy what The Cure did. Why do you think that is?

Lol: I want to say this without being pompous, it comes from a natural yearning. The things that we grew up in a time that had a lot of questions, but also the things that we all liked in arts and literature always tainted to the emotional contemplative really, that really all there is.

Me: Ummm.. okay... so, you have been doing book signing and boom readings, Lol. What kind of fans have been showing up at these events?

Lol: I had people show up from 16 to 60 which really freaks me out. I don't know where people who have teenagers now see the connection with some middle aged guys but they do, they still get it. I think to myself it has to be that, the connection.

Me: Okay, so, The Cure is one of the most famous bands to come out of the late 70s and is a legendary band. When you guys first started out did you think you were gonna be that successful? 

Lol: No, that isn't what we thought about at all. All we thought about was when were we going too make the next record. When we would going to make he next thing. We were always moving forward. It wasn't until many years later when I stood still and looked back and realized what had happened. I like to think there was a masterplan but we probably thought we would only last the length of the year. We never thought this year we would do that, and the next year this... it was never planned like that. I think that's probably why it worked, if we had planned it it would have all gone horribly wrong.

Me: In the book you say something like The Cure creates great loyalty and committed to the Cure. Why do you think that is, Lol?

Lol: I know most of the long-term Cure super fans, I've met most of them over the years. One of the things that struck me really strongly was when we got together in 2011 and did that show in Sydney for "Reflections." We went down to Sydney because we thought we'll go far enough away if it goes horribly wring no one would know. We did this show and I looked down at the audience and I saw people that I have known for 30 years having seen them at many, many concerts. It's like that feedback and knowledgment of what they are as people but maybe can't express it quite like we can so we are there to express it for them. They know that's a safe place to be. Sometimes it could be a little bit scary, I worry about them when I meet them as they can be a little bit to intense. But most of the time it's absolutely fine.

Me: I have to talk about the look... in the book you said something like Robert put on make up before a concert. Was it really that simple? That look has been Robert Smith's trade mark, am I right?

Lol: Pretty much. It was his "uniform." Living in California I bump into a lot of Cure people and I usually bump into them at a supermarket. I seem to remember to put on my correct clothes and shave and brush my teeth for it, but I always meet them when none of those things happened. I don't know if it's a bad thing, because I have a definite image and uniform and its the same thing with Robert. It didn't come one day perfectly formed, it evolved. We had several threads where that came from. It started off with Siouxsie because she had that striking image and we met her very early in our career. Its like a slight adaptation from her so I give her kudos for that. The other part, the more important part, the hair and stuff comes from 19th century romantic poets which is what we inspired to be in our most pompous moments. It's really want we wanted to show the world so we out all that together and then made it into a little rock. That's really what happens with all images, all music, they take all parts of what came before. I was recently in Memphis at Sun Studios and saw where Elvis had sung, I was thinking all of that, everything that we are doing now, everything that we had done, one of the elements came from there. From that little room in the middle of Memphis, but that was a long time ago. It has all be distilled down, all been round and round again, but we had to find something in it that's different. What was different about us came from us, from our personalities, from the way we were as people. I'll go back to Joe Strummer, he said, "Don't mess with the chemistry." I think about the people I grew up with who were my teenage buddies... Robert, Simon, Dempsey, Porl Thompson... those people to me are the nucleus of The Cure. That's where it came from, our teenage life if you like, evolved, grown up a little bit but with added sound.

Me: When I first started to listen to The Cure and when the band first came out I don't know if the words goth or emotion were out. I have heard both words to describe The Cure over the years. I'm not sure the difference between them but my son said goth are more happy than emo people. What would you describe The Cure, Lol? Does either of them fit?

Lol: Absolutely, that's always been the thing with The Cure. Inside all the dark stuff, inside eveything there's always little connections to something with more spirit and more emotional topaz. That is why I never thought The Cure as dark and demonic, it's never who we were. yes, it's dark but it's hopeful and liberating. I lost count how many times I heard over the years "I was glad I had the Cure when I was growing up. I had all the dark times but you guys helped me through it." I would say, especially with Robet's red lipstick, we were a bit more glamour, which leads you to life rather then destruction. It's like creation... creation is expanding, destruction is just destroying and pulling it down in yourself, and we were always about creation really. Even at the darkest emotions it was about creation, and I think that's really where it all came from.

Me: The song's "The Walk," "Let's Go to Bed," and "The Lovecats," proved that the band could do poppier things. It sounds to me from the book those songs were written on a dare? Did someone challenge Robert and dared him to write pop songs?

Lol: Yeah, in a way. When we finished with "Pornography" and the tour ended the way that it did, it really wasn't The Cure anymore, it was just me and Robert and that was it. Our manager Chris at that point asked Robert what he was gonna do now, because he didn't have a band so maybe he could write a pop song or maybe he couldn't. That was kind of like a challenge to Robert. So that's when "Let's Go to Bed" came out, it was supposed to be an anti-pop song. Robert said, "All those songs, whatever they're trying to say, what they're really saying is I want to go to bed with you." For us it was just being little humorous. It was also a way forward, because to me there are two versions of The Cure: there is the three piece and the pinnacle of the three piece was "Pornography" for me, then there's the five piece which the band did "Kiss Me" which some fans call the "Imperial Cure" but I never understood why. It freaks me out a little bit but it's actually more melodic and tuneful type of band because we've got more people to play. Porl Thompsn came back with his wonderful guitars, to this day he's an underrated guitarist. He's so talented what he can play and do. Once we had that band those three singles were ethnically ladder to get where that band was.

Me: Okay, I hope you don't get offended by this, but to me and most people, Robert Smith is the only one in the band that people know. Was it an equal partnership or was it Robert leading all the way? 

Lol: In the beginning I was definitely an equal partner creatively and every other way. It changed more mostly because the outside influences and everything else. A lot of the times the people we had to deal with preferred to deal with just one person, as opposed to having to deal with two or three. Having said that I think there's some accountability as things don't always happen in a vacuum. You have to remember most of the stuff that happened to us happened before we were thirty. I look at my son who is 25... he's a smart guy and a lovely guy and is good at that he does, and wants to do lots of things, but life experience is really not there. I see certain people that he mingles with and I already see what is going to happen with them, Some of the things I tell him because I don't want him to get hurt. Some of them are lovely people that I think he will know his whole life. When I started writing the book my agent Peter said to me, "It's really good you're writing this now because I have some clients that are in their 30s, most of the stuff happened to them a few years ago, and they have no perspective in what actually went on because they're too close to it. You've had 25 years tor think about this stuff so that's going to make your perspective much clearer." I think that's the truth that happened back then. When I look at it with the eye today there's things I would change a little bit. Not much, but back then my own fault was okay, I want to do something with myself and Robert and I want to go forward. He's going to be singing this stuff and has to be the front guy and that's good. Definitely at the beginning all the way up to the mid-80s I certainly felt like an equal partner and to his credit Robert would always include me in in everything. But as I say in the book things happen in the crazy world of rock and roll that spiral into that cliche. That's really what happened to us ore than anything else. It's like that old saying... youth is wasted on the young.

Me: Ahhh... okay, so, yo came back in 2011 for the Reflections tour and you played some shows and from what I read everybody is friends again. Why didn't you do more with the band after that? Is it like a divorce where you are two are friends but can't live together?

Lol: Ummm, to me, yes, I guess it's bit like a divorce. I always remember that "Fawlty Towers" episode where John Cleese is telling the old Colonel in the bar to not disturb the German guests "because we are all friends now." That's true, we are all friends but there's a whole bunch if stuff that went on. I think when we did Reflections it was a little tense at first, and maybe the old demons would surface but they didn't. There's a very good reason they didn't because all that other stuff that along that was actually the trigger of all of that went out of my life a quarter of a century, so it didn't happen that way. It was very nice, very lovely and it was a very good experience I think. I think we would all want to do it again but I don't think there's any rush completely. I would like it to happen and I think sooner and later it will.

Me: That's good to know because I want to see the band live again. So, apart from drumming and writing this book, what else do you do, Lol?

Lol: Funny you should ask that. I had lunch with some of the guys from Modest Mouse recently and I was talking to Jeremiah who is a very nice guy and and he said when he wasn't on the road he started this little business which is a store that his wife runs when he is not around. I thought one of the things I'd really like to do is a mile from where I live there is a very old book store which is fascinated to me because I go in there and I find it books on so many subjects. I asked the old guy that runs it how he could afford to keep it running because surely he doesn't sell more than fifty books a day. He owns the building and it's really his hobby. I'm trying to sell to him that when he decides to retire he'll sell me his business. I'd love to run my own book store. That would be a hobby for me. The writing was not hobby, it was something where I said I'd take year and sit down and write a book. Obviously the money from The Cure enabled me to have that time to do it. My wife is a great surfer and stuff and wins prizes and I'm never going to go and be a surfer. All my hobbies are writing and staying alive.

Me: You mentioned the reunion in 2011, Lol. How did that happen? Did Robert send you an email and call you or did his people contact your people? How did that tour happen?

Lol: I'm usually the conduit between Robert and other people. It's been the same since we were kids, I'd get a call from Robert who ask if Michael would like to do this and I'd say maybe I think he would. Should I ask him? I'd ask Michael who would say, "Yeah, tell Robert I would" and I'd tell Robert and eventually they'll end up talking to each other. It's funny, what we did as teenagers we are still doing as middle aged men. With Reflections I had been on the road with my other band Levinhurst and we played old early Cure stuff and I wrote to Robert and said we are having great fun playing "Faith" and some other songs on the last tour and the 30th anniversary of "Faith" is coming up very soon and it'll be a good idea to do something with it. I don't know what we should do. The truth with Robert is to make him think that he thought of the idea. He forgot about it then wrote back and asked why don't we do the first three albums. I answered, "yeah, what a great idea."

Me: I have to mention "Disintegration," which I have to admit I lost my virginity to. Anyway, reading the book, your relation with the band and Robert disintegrated at that time. Anyway, I love that album and the song "Lovesong," as it has very good memories for me and that was when I really first heard of the band. What was it like at that time? Do you have fond memories of that album. Lol? 

Lol: Haha. Congrats on losing your virginity to that album. The music for "Lovesong" what I seem to remember was Simon. At that time I said in the book I couldn't get my mind through the studio door, let alone my body. There's the song "Homesick" that was really like pulling teeth for me trying to get something out that I could present to everybody. Alcoholism isn't really about drinking but your mental state and my mental state was so bad it was like you say disintegrating at the time. For me listening to "Disintegration" now is bittersweet because I love it as music and I love it as an album but I remember how it came about and what it took to get there it's sometimes a bridge too far for me to think about.

Me: I always wonder with bands, and I wish I could ask my dad this question more deeply now, what was it like to be a struggling musician earning twenty-five pounds a week like you said you were making in the book to being in one of the most successful bands to come out of the 80s?

Lol: That's amazing to me. For the last forty years the dream that we had as teenagers has supported me. When I went on the book tour in the last year, I got to go to all of these places and say thank you to people. People that buy the books are the fans and supported me my whole life. I'm very grateful for that. Sometimes when I'm walking L.A. in the afternoon I walk down a certain street and it's all quiet because everybody is out at work, and I think that was the same feeling that I got. We've read all these books how people do things, how we could go, and we were able to go and do something with that.

Me: Can you give any advice to my readers that might be in their twenties who are starting out in a band? I interview a lot of young bands and I'm sure they'd love to hear some advice.

Lol: Keep a level head about you and trying stay sober some of the time otherwise it'll get horribly wrong. Also make sure you have your own hotel room. Most bands break up because of stupid shit. They always say musical differences but that they really mean is the keyboard never changed his socks or something.

Me: Haha. So, I think "Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me" was the bands biggest album, and my favorite. What do you remember about that album?

Lol: I think I was like 75% there for that. Its a downward spiral as Trent said.

Me: Okay. Lol, thanks so much for being on the Phile, sir. Your music got me laid for the first time in a way. Well, it didn't get me laid, but you know what I mean. Mention your website and I hope The Cure make more music soon.

Lol: Thank you, it has been a lot of fun.

Me: Great job. Tell Robert he needs to come on the Phile.

That about does it does it foe this entry of the Phile. Thanks to Lol for a great interview. The Phile will be back on Wednesday with the great Marshall Crenshaw. Spread the word, not the turd. Don't let snakes and alligators bite you. Bye, love you, bye.

Not if it pleases me. No, you can't stop me, not if it pleases me. - Graham Parker

Thursday, December 7, 2017

Pheaturing Phile Alum Webb Wilder

Good afternoon, kids, welcome to the Phile for a Thursday... how are you? So, how many more days?  No, not until Christmas... until the next Star Wars movie comes out.
Well, following evidence of sexual misconduct, Senator Al Franken has announced his official plans to resign from the U.S. Senate. As Franken pointed out in his resignation speech today, there are other, more prominent members of government who have also been accused of sexual assault. "I of all people am aware that there is some irony in the fact that I am leaving while a man who has bragged on tape about his history of sexual assault sits in the Oval Office," the democratic senator said, referring to Trump. "And a man who has repeatedly preyed on young girls campaigns for the Senate with the full support of his party," Franken said, in reference to Roy Moore. "But this decision is not about me," he continued. “It is about the people of Minnesota.” While President Trump has yet to comment on Franken's official resignation, his son Donald Trump Jr. jumped at the chance to tweet a joke. Commence eye roll.

As noted by The Hill, the tweet is a quote from Stuart Smalley, a character who Franken played in a recurring "Saturday Night Live" segment called "Daily Affirmations With Stuart Smalley" In the segment, he recited affirmations, including the one Trump Jr. tweeted. Except it's actually doggonit, not God-darnit. Not a good week for the Trumps and typos... I'm looking at you, Ivanka and President Trump. Trump Jr.'s specific intentions with his tweet are murky. Perhaps he's recommending Franken recite some self-affirmations to get through this moment; perhaps he's referring to the political segment Franken once starred in, where Stuart tells himself "you should steer clear of politics;" perhaps he's just attempting to convince people that he's somewhat cultured and knows how to make references. Most realistically, he was probably trying to hide the fact that he was caught looking at pictures of anal bleaching!
A clip tweeted by ABC News shows how far some people will go to help an animal in need. In the video, taken yesterday, a man is desperately trying to save a rabbit from the wildfires near Santa Barbara County. The poor lil' thing is a terrified of the flames, but somehow the guy manages to catch it. Whew! The man pulled his car over just to get out and help the rabbit, according to witnesses at the scene. At first the creature scampered away, heading directly into the fire, causing the man to become visibly agitated. He risked getting burned but wouldn't leave the rabbit behind. Luckily the rabbit changed direction and headed back towards the man, who then grabbed it (he caught a wild rabbit! With his hands!) and reportedly carried it to a place where the brush was not on fire. The people who took the video said the man declined to be interviewed. But now the unknown man is an Internet hero, and the rabbits have gotten together and decided to officially make him a saint. Now if he could just save the rest of Southern California, that would be great.
"Time" has announced their Person of the Year and thankfully it is not Donald Trump. Rather, "Time"'s cover honors The Silence Breakers... those who have spoken out recently against rampant sexual misconduct in Hollywood and ignited the #MeToo campaign. Including in this grouping is Taylor Swift because of her counter-lawsuit over the summer against former radio host David Mueller, who groped Swift while posing for a photo. Mueller sued Swift for financial reparations after losing his job due to his behavior. Swift famously counter-sued for $1 and won the case. Some are rankled that Swift was featured on the cover alongside the likes of Ashley Judd, who helped expose Weinstein in the "New York Times," and in favor of activist Tarana Burke, who originated the Me Too concept and is honored inside rather than on the cover of the magazine. The general complaint about Swift being honored is that she was relatively silent about her case. She released a statement after wining in which she promised donations to organizations for sexual assault victims and said, "My hope is to help those whose voices should also be heard." Otherwise, Swift did not comment publicly about her trial, until now. Nor had she engaged in the growing public discussion about sexual assault. Others (like her fans) have spoken out against the backlash towards Swift's inclusion. As "Time"'s Eliana Dockterman wrote, "Swift would not accept blame for the abuse she experienced." In her interview with Dockterman, Swift broke her recent silence about sexual harassment and assault. "My advice is that you not blame yourself and do not accept the blame others will try to place on you. You should not be blamed for waiting 15 minutes or 15 days or 15 years to report sexual assault or harassment, or for the outcome of what happens to a person after he or she makes the choice to sexually harass or assault you." Swift pointedly added, "Even though awareness is higher than ever about workplace sexual harassment, there are still so many people who feel victimized, afraid and silenced by their abusers and circumstances." What this response from the public most clearly shows is that people are expecting a lot more from celebrities these days. Also, the tide is turning against Taylor Swift.
It's a well established fact that First Daughter and White House Advisor Ivanka Trump struggles with the English language. A thread went viral earlier this year tracking the many words she misuses, and she's supposed to be the smartest Trump. Her language skills have been so consistently off, that decided to troll her with their choice of "complicit" as the Word of the Year. Ivanka's latest failed foray into human speech, to her credit, was an issue of spelling, not of basic word definitions. Between retweets about the tax break she's lobbying to get herself, she posted a #relatable pic of her playing with her kids in an evening gown. And, um, homegirl couldn't even spell "peek-a-boo" correctly.

She couldn't get it right on Instagram, either. Two tries, and she failed both. People on Twitter were quick to point that out. Needless to say, her "humanizing" exercise did not go as planned. Not to mention the fact that the scene kind of looks like a Russian doll. Looks like a fun game, but there's one game of peek-a-boo she certainly wishes she could get out of.

John Mayer was admitted to the hospital on Tuesday morning for an emergency appendectomy. As E! Online reports, the singer has been touring with Dead & Company for a slate of sold out shows that would have taken him across the United States and Mexico. Tuesday's show in New Orleans has been postponed. "All tickets for the December 5th show will be honored for the rescheduled date," the touring company wrote on Twitter. "Information on the rescheduled date will be announced as soon as possible. Should ticket holders choose to seek a refund, they will be available at point of purchase." "This sucks for all of us," a fan responded on Twitter. Others are taking the more polite approach and offering Mayer their well wishes. As of Tuesday evening, no update on Mayer's surgery... or his remaining tour dates... has been announced.
So, it looks like that Nick show "The Wild Thornberrys" had a different look at one time for one of their characters...

Hot except in the face. Have you ever written a passive aggressive note to your neighbor or received one? One person has...

People here in Florida sometimes try and get really clever with their license plates...

Y'know, if I had a TARDIS I would go back in time and try and meet John Quincy Adams. Unfortunately, he won't be happy about that...

I like to follow the rules but some people take it just a tad too far...

Hahaha. So, I was supposed to Google "Tesla car" the other day but instead I Googled "Tesla cat."

So, on Monday's entry I showed this pic and said it was real...

Well, it turns out I was wrong... it's fake. This album is real though...

Or maybe not... So, the biggest trend is women making their breasts look like reindeer this season. It's fantastic!

Ladies... send them in! Alright, it's Thursday... you know what that means...

Apparently John Cutlip really hated his boss. Cutlip not only ejaculated into her cup of instant soup, but he also posted a video of himself doing the jerky deed on Facebook. His boss discovered the video when Cutlip's browser was left open at work, but alas it was already after she consumed said soup. He pleaded guilty to reduced charges. He thought she ordered Cream of Sum Yun Gai.

I think that's the dumbest Mindphuck ever! If you spot it let me know. Okay, it's time to talk football with my friend Jeff.

Me: Hey, Jeff, welcome back to the Phile. How are you?

Jeff: Always glad to be back here on the Phile! I'm alright. Been a little under the weather lately, but I think I'm getting better.

Me: That's good. Okay, the Giants are taking over the NFL news... The Giants have fired head coach Ben McAdoo and GM Jerry Reese. This is the very first time the Giants' coach was fired mid-season, even though the season is over. Are you surprised? I'm not surprised the coach was fired... but surprised Jerry Reese was fired.

Jeff: Considering the season the Giants are having, no I'm honestly not surprised that McAdoo and Reese got fired. Part of it had to do with injuries which isn't their fault, but the season is pretty bad regardless.

Me: With those two gone, it looks like Eli will be starting QB again! Do you think they made a mistake benching him last weekend? They still fucking lost.

Jeff: Yeah, I was surprised Eli got benched, especially considering his streak for starting games. And the Giants knew Geno Smith isn't the future of the team, they should have started the rookie they drafted to see if he could provide a spark. Smith looked good, but it wasn't enough. Like I said, they have a lot of issues and it's not just at QB.

Me: You know what I say about Eli? Without him, cheaters would have six Super Bowl rings and an undefeated season.

Jeff: Eli will go down as the greatest QB in Giants history, and that says something when you remember they had Phil Simms. Eli has two issues, one he seems to forget who he's throwing to. He usually has a lot of interceptions in the season, especially the last few years. Two, he will never be the most famous in his family. He might even be third behind his father and that dude name Peyton.

Me: Let's talk about other NFL news, Jeff. This was amazing. During the fourth quarter of the Eagles-Seahawks showdown in Seattle, Eagles QB Carson Wentz made an unreal 45-yard throw to WR Nelson Agholor. Wentz was being chased from behind and had it his legs pulled down from him but was still to get this throw off. This kinda shit doesn't happen everyday, right? Can you think of another play as good?

Jeff: The pass was great! I will give you that. But we've seen some pretty amazing passes the last few years. I know I'm partial but the Big Ben to Antonio Brown two weeks ago that set up the game winner was pretty epic too.

Me: I saw this and have to mention it... CBS cut to a Browns fan taking money out of her bra during Chargers-Browns game.

Me: I wish she would of just taken off her sweater. Do you think she knew she was being filmed, Jeff? Hahaha.

Jeff: I think she was too busy reaching into her shirt to realize she was on TV. She probably knows now!

Me: Did you see during today’s Patriots-Bills game in Buffalo, Pats TE Rob Gronkowski delivered a dirty WWe-style hit on Bills cornerback Tre’Davious White? After the game, Gronk apologized and cited the lack of calls for the reason his to lose his cool. Regardless of the situation and why Gronkowski laid the hit on the Bills CB, a suspension should happen. Do you think it will?

Jeff: Gronk has been a WWE ring before, so he probably learned that from his friend Mojo Rawley! He has been suspended for a game, but he's appealing it right now.

Me: What NFL news do you have?

Jeff: I mean we've pretty much covered the big news. The Steelers and the Bengals played on Monday night in one of the ugliest games of the year. The Bengals set the most penalty yards for the season last night, but the Steelers had some stupid penalties too. These two teams just don't like each other and it's obvious.

Me: Hey, so, I am dying to see what you think about this... Disney has taken over your team, Jeff.

Me: Hahahahaha. Well? Hahahahaha.

Jeff: Hmmm, I feel like they could have done more with the logo. What? I don't know. But not that. 

Me: Okay, so, how did we do last week?

Jeff: Last week I had another perfect week going 2-0 with a Steeler win while you went 1-1 with a Giants lose. So my lead grows!

Me: Ugh. Okay, let's pick this week... I say Packers by 3 and your Steelers (Or Dwarfs) by 1. Also, the Giants better beat the Cowboys. Please. Oh. Please.

Jeff: My picks are Saints by 3 and Jets by 5. I wouldn't hold my breath on a Giant win, but we shall see.

Me: Okay, my friend, I will see you back here next Wednesday. Have a good week.

Jeff: And speaking of seeing, I will see you next week!

Okay, so, a lot of people are saying that Trump was shutting his words and having a stroke yesterday. A "friend" of the Phile wants to explain what happened. So, please welcome back to the Phile...

Sarah: Oh, my darling, oh my darling, oh my darling, Clementine... hello, Jason.

Me: Hello, Sarah. So, yesterday, much of the world watched as president Donald Trump made a speech announcing his decision to move the U.S. embassy in Jerusalem from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem. While the speech itself marks a big political move, a lot of the Internet was preoccupied with the way Trump slurred his words at the end of the address. What happened to him, Sarah?

Sarah: Jason, it was just a dry throat. There were a lot of questions on that. Frankly, pretty ridiculous questions. The president's throat was dry, nothing more than that.

Me: So, the president is in good health?

Sarah: Yes, he is in good health, and he's scheduled to see his doctor next year. the results of this appointment will be shared with the public.

Me: There are still a lot of questions on the table. For one, why can't he see his doctor before next year?! Is he getting enough water? Is there a stash of White House cocaine?! There's a lot left unanswered.

Sarah: Can I go now?

Me: Sure. Sarah Huckleberry Sanders, ladies and gentlemen. Speaking of Trump...

Donald Trump done messed up on Twitter again. No, he didn't admit to obstruction of justice, or address the wrong mass shooting, but he did misquote one of the most famous sentences in American history in attempting to honor the victims of Pearl Harbor.

Any fifth grade American History student or FDR fanboy or girl could tell you that the quote is actually "a date which will live in infamy." Sure, it's a mistake a lot of people make, but a lot of people aren't the President of the United States. People noticed the error. At this point I guess we should be glad that he didn't fuck it up as much as he could have. Trump could have added his own language instead of just simply messing up FDR's. Stay tuned for a mention of "Four score eleven years ago" on the anniversary of the Gettysburg Address. Oh... and he's not the only Trump to mess up their tribute to the first fallen American heroes of World War II.


The 71st book to be pheatured in the Phile's Book Club is...

Lol will be the guest on the Phile on Monday.

If you don't know what net neutrality is let this help you understand...

World War II
The other thing Hitler is famous for.

Today's pheatured guests is one of my favorite singers and songwriters of all time. His great latest album "Mississippi Moderne" is available on iTunes. Please welcome back to the Phile the fantastic... Webb Wilder!

Me: Webb! I am so glad to have you back on the Phile... you have no idea! How have you been? 

Webb: Thanks, Jason! Glad to be back. I suppose I have been every which a way since we have spoken but, mostly very good.

Me: Webb, where are you living nowadays?

Webb: I have lived in the Nashville area since 1982.

Me: You're originally from Mississippi, right?

Webb: Born and raised in Hattiesburg, Mississippi.

Me: I have to say I purchased your latest album "Mississippi Mordern." What does the title mean, Webb? I am guessing the Mississippi part is because you are from there…

Webb: Yes, the term itself belongs to R.S. Field who also was born and raised in Hattiesburg. I have such a long history with him. He was the drummer in WW & the Beatnecks for a short time back in 1985 but, continued on as producer and really, principal songwriter for many years after that. Mississippi moderne is one of many terms he thought of to describe our music. It seemed to fit for a title on this particular album.

Me: It has a bunch of obscure covers and a few originals on it, am I right?

Webb: Yes.

Me: How did you chose which covers to do? Are these songs you wanted to record for awhile?

Webb: Yes, I always wanted to do "Lucy Mae Blues" by Frankie Lee Sims. Buddy Guy beat me to the punch in covering it but, I deliberately never listened to his version as I didn't want it to influence my interpretation of it for which I had a pretty clear vision. "Lonely Blue Boy" by Conway Twitty was something we used to play back when Bobby Field was still the drummer. We met Conway in a studio one time which was very special. As the direction of this album began to take shape, I had an idea for a more "caveman" kind of arrangement of it which the guys in the band really expanded on. We had been playing "Who Will the Next Fool Be" onstage for quite a while so, that was kind of a no brainer as the album had taken on a bluesy kind of direction. The Kinks cover, "I Gotta Move" is a song I used to do in a band called the Drapes back in Mississippi before I moved to Nashville.

Me: Do you like covering songs better than doing originals? A lot of your covers are better than the originals... that's just my opinion.

Webb: Well, thanks for saying so! At the risk of sounding immodest, I think I have pretty good taste in songs. The flip side of that is my standards for songs are probably higher than my song writing ability! It is only in recent years that I have sort of given myself "license" to actually record what I write more often.

Me: One cover I have to ask you about is the Kinks' "I Gotta Move" which you just mentioned. This is a really cool version. You grew up being a fan of British music, right? Was the Kinks one of your favorite bands growing up?

Webb: Without a doubt. I distinctly remember hearing them for the first time although I can't remember if it was "You Really Got Me" or "All of the Day" but, I remember thinking that they must be inebriated Hispanic people! They certainly didn't sound British to me. I loved their early raw stuff but, then got pretty obsessed with their more intellectual "golden" period which kind of starts with "Face To Face" and continues through "Arthur: The Fall and Decline of the British Empire." Having said that, the "Lola" album is great and "Muswell Hillbilles" is very good. After that, I like them on sort of a song by song basis although the huge "concept" albums that followed are impressive to be sure.

Me: What other bands were you into?

Webb: The Band, NRBQ, Badfinger, The Faces, The Small Faces, The Rolling Stones, Free, Delaney and Bonnie, Blodwyn Pig, Moby Grape, Buffalo Springfield, Poco the original Johnny Winter Trio, Canned Heat and many more. The Beatles were and are always top of the heap, though… perhaps to the point that I placed them aside as an influence because I was sure I couldn't remotely "go there" in like fashion. Later on I was very into The Fabulous Thunderbirds and Rockpile.

Me: My dad used to say there's Stones fans and there are Beatles fans. In the 90s I would say I was a Stones fan, but nowadays in my older years I would have to say I am a bigger Beatles fan. What about you?

Webb: I am both but, I guess I am more of a Stones "person" if that makes any sense. I related to them and am influenced by them more but, as I said, the Beatles have always been in a class by themselves.

Me: Webb, how old were you when you started to play guitar and sing?

Webb: I was 12 when I first started learning to play. Kind of embarrassing because to have been playing that long, I ought to be Segovia by now! I will say, that people who grow up with parents or siblings who play do seem to catch on to it easier. My parents were not in the least bit musical and I was an only child.

Me: Do you remember what the first song you learnt was? 

Webb: "(Hang Down Your Head) Tom Dooley." It only has two chords!

Me: What was the name of your first band and what kinda music did you play?

Webb: It was called (not my idea) The Power of Steam. It was the era of far out band names: The Chocolate Watchband, The Vanilla Fudge, etc. One of the guys in the band had a friend who had a sound effects album dedicated to steam locomotives which was called The Power of Steam. We played (awfully) rhythm and blues covers, San Francisco psychedilc covers, Young Rascals and stuff like that. We basically TRIED to cover the same songs some of the older bands played at the Hattiesburg Teen Center except that we threw in all of these Jefferson Airplane and Grateful Dead covers mainly because the guy who named the band was the eldest and dug the San Francisco thing. I do remember buying "Beggar's Banquet" and insisting we do "Sympathy For the Devil!" I am sure we were never in tune! 

Me: Cool. Anyway, let's get back to the latest album... where was it recorded, Webb?

Webb: A great deal of it was recorded at a now gone and demolished (literally!) studio called Studio 19. It's true legacy would have been under it's original name which was Music City Recorders which was once owned and operated by the late, great Scotty Moore who was Elvis's original guitarist. Among it's other notable visitors was Ringo Starr who recorded his "Beaucoups of Blues" album there back in the 1970s. It has been sold and levelled, sadly., Nashville is really changing! A couple of the songs were recorded at Joe McMahan's Wow & Flutter studio where I did the "More Like Me" album. One song was recorded back in the '90s at a former home studio of George Bradfute's.

Me: Who plays on the album? Is it the same band you had all these years?

Webb: Pretty much. Jimmy Lester and Tom Comet play drums and bass throughout except George Bradfute plays bass on "Going To Get My Baby" and Greg Morrow plays drums on "Stones In My Pathway." Micha Hulscher played some great keyboards on a couple of songs and we had two of the McCrary Sisters (Regina and Anne) on one song. The only guitarists in evidence on the record are Bob Williams, Joe V. McMahan (two songs), George Bradfute (one song) and myself.

Me: There's one song I have to ask you about, and I think it's an original... "Too Much Sugar For a Nickel." I think I know what that means, but tell me just in case I don't.

Webb: That comes from an old country expression my mother used to use to describe something that seemed a little dodgy (too use the Brit term!) or was too good to be true.

Me: This is your 9th studio album I think... do you have a favorite album of yours, Webb?

Webb: No. I am very proud of all of them. I was very pleased with this one. The only one that bugs me soncially is "Hybrid Vigor" which is full of great songs and performances but the SOUND of it is rather 1980s, I'm afraid!

Me: I love the live album "Born to be Wilder." Do you think you'll be ever releasing another live album?

Webb: It is certainly possible. I think you will see live tracks here and there whether there is a truly live album yet to come or not. Going through a lot of old previously unreleased stuff and hioping to put together an "archival" release early in 2018.

Me: You play a few shows in Europe I read... how would you compare American audiences to European audiences?

Webb: There are always exceptions but, in general I think European audiences are more open minded.

Me: You played so many shows over the years do you have a favorite?

Webb: Not just one although The Barrowlands in Glasgow opening for the Georgia Satellites in 1989 is a stand out. Sharing the bill with Jerry Lee Lewis at the legendary Tiptina's in New Orleans years ago was like a dream. Unreal. Backing Bo Diddley, playing the old Antone's on the drag in Austin back when Clifford Antone was still alive and having Wayne Bennet (Bobby "Blue" Bland) sit in with us, hosting a "Mississsippi" night here at 3rd and Lindsley during Americana Fest a few years ago with Marty Stuart and band, Paul Thorn and band, Luthor Dickinson all on the bill as well as my band with Ian MacLagan in the audience and backstage was a great night!

Me: I think I know the answer to this... what do you prefer, playing live or in the studio?

Webb: I guess live but, when I really feel we've gotten something in the studio it is a very rewarding feeling.

Me: I have to ask you about "Orange Couch." That's your show on the Internet, right? Are you still doing that?

Webb: It wasn't REALLY my show. I hosted it. It was sort of an experiment that was initiated by the folks at Audio Productions here in Nashville. We had some great guests but, didn't do it long enough to work the bugs out, get our production values up to snuff, etc.

Me: And you are hosting a radio show called The List? How is that going? Do you like doing that kinda thing?

Webb: Yes, I am. Going great. It is a lot of fun.

Me: In the past we talked about your acting. You were in the movie The Thing Called Love and you came out with a video called "Corn Flicks" which had a few shorts. Are you still acting, Webb?

Webb: I haven't done much acting since around 2006 in a film that wound up being kind of a stillborn effort called Scattergun. To give you an example of how messed up the whole thing was, we have a song called "Scattergun." The name of the film is Scattergun. The song is not in the film!

Me: Haha. Have you ever thought about releasing "Corn Flicks" on DVD? I still have my VHS copy somewhere.

Webb: Yes, but, we haven't done it for various reasons. We did have a DVD for a time that had the two main short films and a bunch of bonus stuff from the director as well as some WW & the Beatnecks bonus features but, it is out of print now.

Me: So, what are your plans next year? Any new projects in the pipeline?

Webb: As I said, I am also putting together a "previously unreleased" album which should see a 2018 release. January will be quite busy with the 30A Songwriter Festival and the Outlaw Country Cruise. The List will continue on a weekly basis. Meanwhile, I have two or three new recordings which I hope will be the start of an altogether new album to be released at some as yet unknown future date. 

Me: Webb, you know I have to ask you... you have a cool credo... can you tell the readers what it is?


Me: When did you first come up with that credo, Webb?

Webb: In the van in 1985 returning from the first out of town gig that WW & the Beatnecks ever did. Luckily it was captured on a boom box recording as I spontaneously and simultaneously composed and first said it!

Me: Alright, thanks so much for being on the Phile again. It has been way too long. Will you come back when your next release comes out?

Webb: You bet!

Me: Go ahead and plug anything you want and mention your website. All the best, and please come back here soon. Rock on.

Webb: Well, the Three Aces tour has a poster and it can be found at The List, the Americana Chart Show can be heard from anywhere online at on Fridays at 2pm CST or Saturdays from 7 to 9am CST. Thanks, Jason!

Me: Of course. Great job, Webb.

There. That about does it for this entry of the Phile. Thanks to my guests Jeff Trelewicz and of course Webb Wilder. The Phile will be back on Monday with author and original Cure drummer Lol Tolhurst. Spread the word, not the turd. Don't let snakes and alligators bite you. Bye, love you, bye.

Not if it pleases me. No, you can't stop me, not if it pleases me. - Graham Parker