Wednesday, April 29, 2020

Pheaturing Tommy Chong


Hey, kids, welcome to the Phile for a Wednesday... how are you? Gas  is almost under a dollar, restaurants are all drive-in style, everyone has shaggy hair, welcome to the 70s.
As we continue to witness the brave fight health care workers have been putting up on the front lines against the coronavirus, we are also reminded that they are not immune to being human. Dr. Lorna Breen, an emergency room doctor who worked in the Columbia University Irving Medical Center and New York-Presbyterian Allen Hospital system, committed suicide on Sunday, April 26th. Dr. Breen was taken to the UVA Hospital in Charlottesville, Virginia after Charlottesville Police Department responded to a call for medical assistance at her sister’s house where she was staying. They later stated in a news release that Dr. Breen died at the UVA Hospital by “[succumbing] to self-inflicted injuries.” Dr. Breen, the daughter of Dr. Philip Breen (a retired trauma surgeon), had expressed to her father about how the coronavirus outbreak had affected her and her colleagues. She explained specifically how the challenging front lines of the emergency department, along with most other health care institutions nationwide, have completely overextended its first responders, making this pandemic an even more challengingly difficult time. Dr. Breen had been working endlessly for weeks in United States’ pandemic epicenter, New York City, as an ER doctor, tending to coronavirus patients first hand. She then contracted COVID-19 as well, but after taking only a week and a half off to recover, she immediately went back to “the trenches” of the front line. According to Breen’s father, she couldn’t even make it through a 12-hour shift but was determined to keep helping. Eventually, a doctor friend of Breen’s told her to go home to Virginia to rest. She was admitted to the UVA Hospital for exhaustion, her mother being a doctor in the ward she was treated. A week later, Dr. Breen stayed with her mother, and then with her sister that weekend. And unfortunately, the mental devastation was too much. “She went down in the trenches and was killed by the enemy on the front line. She loved New York and wouldn’t hear about living anywhere else. She loved her coworkers and did what she could for them. I just want people to know how special she was,” Breen’s father explained. Dr. Lorna Breen was so determined to do everything she could to help COVID-19 patients at the hand of her own mental health. It’s important that we realize what those on the front lines against the coronavirus crisis are sacrificing in order to restore order again. These health care workers, first responders, police officers, and more are humans just like the people they are protecting. Their mental health is also at stake, even though we can’t always see it. If you know someone, anyone, having a difficult time with their mental health, call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline. It’s the least we can do to honor those who have truly given everything they have to protect us.
Listen, when it comes to protecting ourselves, our loved ones, and basically anyone around us, we do what we can to make sure we stay safe. Which is why healthcare providers are making sure their voices are heard by literally stripping down naked to get their point across. Basically, healthcare workers in France and Germany are going au naturel to raise awareness about shortages of personal protective equipment as they battle COVID-19. The images first surfaced on a German website called Blanke Bedenken, which shows a group of German doctors posting in the nude using medical equipment such as anatomical skeletons and stethoscopes as a prop to “partially obscure themselves.”     I'll show you a pic...


According to the website, which is in German but was translated to English, the organizers stated, “We are your [doctors]. To be able to treat you safely, we need protective gear. When we run out of the little we have, we look like this. We are all vulnerable. Medical practices need more support from politics.” Can you blame them? Heck, I would do that too if I was a doctor whose life was at risk every day. It’s truly a brilliant idea if you ask me. You know people love anything to do with nudity, so what better than using their bodies to get what they need. Nudity plus doctors? Pfft, you’re set, take whatever you want! In France, several dentists launched a very similar project as they posed with the hashtag #dentisteapoli, which translates to naked dentist, as they alerted the community about their unsafe work conditions in light of the partial lifting of lockdowns. Dentists were forced by the government to stop working and give up their masks and protective equipment amid the coronavirus pandemic, leaving several worried about the PPE storage when they are allowed to work again on May 11th. Luckily, the French health ministry listened and promised to provide them with 150,000 masks for the 42,000 dentists in France. As far as for Germans, Germany’s Federal Ministry of Health stated about 133 million protective masks have been distributed amid the coronavirus crisis. The county received a heavy shipment of 10 million face masks from China and is expected to get 15 million more. Seems to me like these healthcare providers might need more than those numbers. But hey, if the government wants another protest involving naked doctors, I’m sure they’ll get one. Free the…well, you know.
Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi has gone on record saying that Democrats will push for a nationwide vote-by-mail provision in the next coronavirus relief package Congress puts out. “In this next bill, we will be supporting vote by mail in a very important way... we think it’s a health issue at this point,” Pelosi told MSNBC. The vote-by-mail provision is largely being touted as an effort to combat any coronavirus related public health issues that may pop up before the 2020 Presidential Election that make it difficult for voting to be done in person. No doubt, however, many vote-by-mail proponents also see it as a way to increase voter turnout and make elections easier for voters to participate in from here forward. President Donald Trump has already come out against vote-by-mail, tweeting, “Republicans should fight very hard when it comes to statewide mail-in voting. Democrats are clamoring for it. Tremendous potential for voter fraud, and for whatever reason, doesn’t work out well for Republicans.” So what’s the deal? Is vote-by-mail a Democrat ploy to encourage immigrants to murder postal workers, steal ballots, and get a transexual communist elected? Or does opposition to vote-by-mail make you a vote-suppressing neo-fascist white supremacist who’ll be at the head of the line to apply for a job manning a guard tower at the concentration camps Trump plans on building for [insert protected group(s)] after he wins the title ‘President for Life’ in 2020? Mostly neither? It’s really just a way to make our democracy more democratic... unless you hate freedom because you’re a libtard/boomer/commie/nazi. Vote-by-mail should be a thing in the United States. For starters, most voters support it according to the Pew Research Center. Broad support for allowing voting by mail, automatic voting registration; mixed support for other proposals Even a majority of Republicans support vote by mail, either somewhat or strongly so. Also, the majority of people who live in states that already have widespread vote-by-mail... including the majority of Republicans in those states... favor vote-by-mail. Adults in states with higher rates of mail-in voting in 2018 more supportive of vote-by-mail expansion There are, however, are several valid concerns that only the most desperately in need of our uniquely terrible, modern version of moral validation by way of publicly demonstrating "socially correct" political groupthink would dismiss out of hand. Most of those concerns essentially boil down to the security of the election and voter fraud. After all, if Russia can get whoever they want elected into the White House by posting your uncle’s idea of dank memes to Facebook then messing with an American election must not be that hard. So we should probably take extra to care to make sure everything is secure. For vote-by-mail to work, ballot harvesting... the collecting and submitting of mail-in voter ballots by volunteers or workers, including volunteers directly affiliated with and organized by political groups... has to be illegal. The only people who should be collecting vote-by-mail ballots should be postal workers or some sort of specific, government-appointed election worker or volunteer. No third parties or even well-meaning day-of volunteers allowed. I don’t trust MAGA Randy or Eat the Rich Ethan to be any more honest about volunteer-collecting strangers’ ballots than you do, or should. The other security questions about tampering are, generally, well above my pay grade but suffice it to say that stuff should be worked out, re-worked out, and then triple checked by a legion of OCD bureaucrats and analysts before we institute any vote-by-mail measures. Security is the most important thing here. Yes, there is a strong argument to be made that denying vote-by-mail for no good reason unnecessarily hampers Americans’ abilities to exercise their right to vote and their freedom of expression. But if an election’s security and legitimacy becomes compromised because we rushed to institute vote-by-mail and left ourselves exposed to foreign or domestic meddling, or some other flaws in a new system we didn’t work hard enough to ensure worked properly, then we all will have lost those rights and the argument becomes moot. We also lose our precious freedom of expression if, you know, the country literally isn’t able to hold a legitimate election because we’re all locked down again. The claim that vote-by-mail disproportionately favors Democrats over Republicans also probably isn’t true. Still, that argument... whether it’s legit, half true, or a total load... is one is going to be a real sticking point for a lot of people. Here’s why it shouldn’t be... As already mentioned, it’s probably not true. Also, by far the biggest advantage Democrats could gain from mail-in voting would be a massive increase in youth turnout. Can we really ever count on that happening? Instead of overestimating how much vote-by-mail might help Democrats what we should be doing is not underestimating just how lazy the collective youth vote truly is. Just ask Bernie Sanders. Until the youth vote proves it can consistently turn out it’s pretty insane, at this point in our electoral history, to assume that it ever will.
Stories like this one often remind us to really and truly be grateful for everything in our lives and to not take absolutely anything for granted. The fight against the coronavirus claimed yet another life, but this 32-year-old Connecticut father made sure his family knows how much he loves them in a heartbreaking letter he left on his phone before he died. Jonathan Coelho, a state employee for the State of Connecticut, began having breathing issues on March 26th. His wife, Katie Coelho, had explained that they had already started self-isolating a week before problems began because their son Braedyn has cerebral palsy. The Coelho family was already following the stay-at-home order because 2-year-old Braedyn’s medical complexities put him at high risk for contracting the coronavirus. However, Katie explained on her Facebook page that Jonathan was getting worse and took him to the hospital in Danbury, Connecticut. She updated on social media when he was intubated, placed on a ventilator, and sedated on March 31st, and further updated when he needed dialysis for kidney failure on April 12th. By April 18th, the Connecticut father’s condition was starting to improve, even though his kidneys were still not working. His wife Katie remained hopeful that he was going to get better. Then, suddenly on April 22nd, Jonathan went into cardiac arrest and died alone after a 28-day battle with COVID-19. Unfortunately, the healthcare workers couldn’t give a definitive reason why. And as Katie got his things back, she went through her husband’s phone, finding a goodbye letter written to her and their young children. get your tissues ready... “I love you guys with all my heart and you’ve given me the best life I could have ever asked for. I am so lucky it makes me so proud to be your husband and the father to Braedyn and Penny. Katie you are the most beautiful caring nurturing person I’ve ever met… you are truly one of a kind… make sure you live life with happiness and that same passion that made me fall in love with you. Seeing you be the best mom to the kids is the greatest thing I’ve ever experienced. Let Braedyn now he’s my best bud and I’m proud to be his father and for all the amazing things he’s done and continues to do. Let Penelope know she’s a princess and can have whatever she wants in life. I’m so lucky… ” Penelope is the Coelho’s 10-month-old baby girl. Along with Braedyn’s health challenges, Katie is anxious about their future without Jonathan. In his obituary, Jonathan is remembered by his kind and loving personality, as well as his love for the New England Patriots. His family has a GoFundMe page set up to help alleviate the upcoming challenges and expenses. The coronavirus pandemic is not to be joked around with, and it’s important to always keep stories like these in mind. Make sure to do your absolute best to appreciate your loved ones as much as possible. Give someone a phone call today.
Man, oh, man! Some of us are getting really comfortable working from home during this coronavirus pandemic. Let’s face it, if you’re lucky enough to work from home (shout out to essential workers for going out there and making our world better) you know Zoom work video calls are the best calls. Why? Well, you don’t have to dress up. I mean, I’m sure you in the comfort of your own home and want to be comfortable during this pandemic. Which is why this reporter thought he could do the same. But, what he didn’t count on was the TV stand being a little bit too short. ABC Reporter Will Reeve was doing a live interview for "Good Morning America" about pharmacies using drones to deliver prescriptions to people in a Florida retirement village. During a live shot to his home from the studio, he stated, “What is an innovative, high-tech way to get people their medicine quickly while promoting social distancing? Drones!” Now, at the start of his interview with host Amy Robach, Reeve is seen, you know, looking well dressed and ready to conquer the world. The graphics at the bottom of the screen are shown, covering up his bottom half just perfectly. But, after his piece finished, it was just a big ol’ wide shot of Reeve onscreen, with just a small banner at the bottom. That’s when things, well, look a little more revealing in the camera angle. As Reeve continues to talk about the “final leg of the precision journeys'” viewers were met with a glimpse of his own leg. Ladies, check it out...


Yup, basically this man didn’t have any pants on, and well, the world got to see that. He was so late to his own interview that he only bothered to dress his top part of the body. That’s when he continued to talk and decided to move his bare leg up, for all of us to see. Just a regular Tuesday morning, if only there was a camera operator to let him know. What made this whole thing better is when the screen returned to a two-shot of GMA anchors and Reeve, Robach made quite an interesting face, holding in her laughter. Because well, it was a mortifying but honest and simple mistake. I don’t blame this man, he was in his own home, I get it. We all walk around in our underwear here and there. But you know, pretty risky if you ask me! You know you’re going live on TV and decide not to wear pants? Bold, bold, move indeed! The ABC News Reporter eventually did respond on social media saying he was actually wearing workout clothes underneath his suit jacket. You know, because you still have to stay active despite the lockdown and he is used to those post-"GMA" workouts. Through Twitter, he stated, When WFH goes wrong (or, your self-framed live shot goes too wide). Hope everyone got a much-needed laugh.” Yup, a good sport indeed. Well, you win some you lose some. I hope you learned your lesson, Reeve.
Church's are getting very creative with the coronavirus happening...


I have good news... in Dallas, Texas today where the city's cowboys have returned for the first time since 1805. The Earth is healing, kids.


It's good to wear gloves and masks when you go out but some people are taking it a bit too far...


The sign says "if you can smell my fart we're not far apart enough." Haha. Once in a while I like to look up "Foghat" on Twitter and see what people are saying. Here's a tweet I saw recently...


That's not true, is it? I have to try it. Okay, this is March versus April...


Haha. Now from the home office in New York, here is...


Top Phive Things Said By People With Cabin Fever
5. I don't understand why staying home is so hard. Hundred and five million of you managed it on Election Day in 2016.
4. Never thought I'd see protests for the right to get infected and drown to death in your own lung fluid on order to own the Libs.
3. Me before quarantine, watching Castaway: Really? He's best friends with a ball? My during quarantine: Look at you go, Roomba, you crazy son of a bitch.
2. Who called it Quarantine Baking and not Existential Bread?
And the number one thing said by someone with cabin fever is...
1. This has what dating reduced me to in quarantine... playing "Animal Crossing."




If you spot the Mindphuck let me know. Hahahaha.


This self-contradicting sign.


Okay, it's time to check on Port Jeff...


Nothing going on. Sit back while I tell you about Trump...


During times of war and strife, national leaders often aim to unite a broken country and, in the process, broaden their appeal beyond their most loyal supporters. Not President Donald Trump. Confronting a pandemic that has upended his presidency and threatened his reelection prospects, Trump has focused almost exclusively on tending to his base. While the coronavirus has claimed the lives of more than 54,000 Americans, eliminated more than 20 million jobs and dashed the routines of daily life for nearly everyone, Trump has leveled attacks on Democrats. He’s blamed former President Barack Obama’s team for his own administration’s failures, picked fights with reporters and thrown rhetorical bombs meant to thrill his hardcore supporters. During a particularly rough stretch last week, Trump pledged to bar foreigners from entering the country. The executive order Trump ultimately signed was less severe than he suggested, but it still gave him a chance to highlight action on an issue that’s central to his political brand. Four years after Trump captured the White House by perfectly threading narrow victories in critical battleground states, he is betting that a relentless focus on his base will yield a repeat performance. It’s a risky strategy because Trump’s standing in some of those states shows signs of weakening. And there’s little evidence to suggest he has significantly broadened his appeal in other places to offset those vulnerabilities. The pandemic hasn’t changed that. “It drives me crazy, frankly, because part of being the president is to rise above, to ignore certain things,” said Ari Fleischer, who served as White House press secretary under President George W. Bush, whose lukewarm approval ratings soared after his handling of the September 11th attacks. “And I think at a time like this he should leave a lot of the gauntlets on the ground and rise above. But that’s not him.” Fleischer said that, while the virus puts limits on the president’s ability to travel and the political environment is far more polarized today than it was in the early 2000s, Trump’s White House could be appealing to the country as a whole with events honoring doctors, nurses and front-line workers that “send helpful, meaningful signals that we are one nation and we can play a meaningful part.” Other modern presidents have looked to transcend partisan boundaries at a time of crisis or tragedy, including Bill Clinton in the aftermath of the Oklahoma City bombing, Ronald Reagan after the Challenger space shuttle explosion and Lyndon Johnson after John F. Kennedy’s assassination. “I’m surprised the administration isn’t doing this as well,” Fleischer said. Other Republicans, however, believe Trump is playing it right. Stephen Bannon, the president’s former chief strategist, believes 2020 is a “base election” year and thinks Trump can broaden his support because of a “new nationalism” born in the wake of a pandemic that began in China. He predicted Americans would rally around their president during a period of crisis. “Trump is a wartime president,” Bannon said. Trump’s approval rating has remained remarkably steady over the course of his presidency, with about 42% of poll respondents saying they approve of the job he’s doing as president, according to a new the Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research. That’s even as many question the veracity of his statements and believe he is not listening to health experts enough during the crisis. But the coronavirus has threatened to rewrite the Electoral College map, and Trump’s campaign has become concerned about losing support in several key swing states, particularly Florida and Wisconsin. Some advisers have all but written off Michigan, which Trump captured in 2016 by fewer than 11,000 votes. He is now locked in a feud with the state’s Democratic governor. In former Vice President Joe Biden, Trump faces a presumptive Democratic nominee whose promises of across-the-aisle outreach and pragmatic, experienced-based management may play well in several battlegrounds states. That includes Arizona, which has a vast suburban population uneasy with the constant Trump drama, tweets and base plays. “People are going to look for stability,” said Doug Cole, a veteran Republican operative in Arizona who worked on John McCain’s 2008 presidential campaign. “Biden can capitalize on that.” Trump campaign officials who requested anonymity to describe campaign strategy stressed that the election is still six months away, an eternity in politics. They noted polls can be wrong or change, especially if the pandemic wanes or the economy rebounds. And they said the campaign believes that voters will credit Trump for the strong economy before the pandemic hit, even as they have expressed worry that he could be pushing to open things too quickly and that any resulting deaths will not be forgiven by voters in November. But there are warning signs. Several Republicans who mimicked Trump’s 2016 strategy by focusing on immigration failed to win congressional or governors’ races. “Whatever impact it has in boosting turnout among core supporters, it boosts the backlash vote even more,” said Frank Sharry, the executive director of the liberal immigration advocacy group America’s Voice. He noted the 2017 Virginia’s governor’s race, in which GOP nominee Ed Gillespie tried to feather candidate Ralph Northam with ads on immigration. The strategy backfired, as it did in many 2018 midterm races. Jason Miller, communications director for Trump’s 2016 campaign, countered that last week’s immigration executive order may appeal to the base. But he said it was also aimed at helping African- Americans, Hispanics, women and immigrants already in the U.S. legally who typically hold lower-wage jobs at a higher percentage than those in what is typically viewed as the president’s base. Trump’s campaign has been trying to chip away at Democrats’ advantage with those demographic groups, even as advocates counter that minority immigrants will suffer by being prevented from having their parents and other family members join them in the country. Miller also defended the president’s refusal to put petty political riffs aside at a time of national crisis, arguing that some fights are worth picking and that Trump will be judged, not on his daily briefings, but on how the country eventually recovers from the crisis. “He is bringing the country together with determinative action and results,” he said.



The 122nd book you be pheatured in the Phile's Book Club is...


Craig will be on the Phile tomorrow.


Today's guest is an actor, writer, director, musician, cannabis rights activist and comedian. He is known for his marijuana-themed Cheech & Chong comedy albums and movies with Cheech Marin. Please welcome to the Phile... Tommy Chong.


Me: Hey, Tommy, welcome to the Phile. It's great to have you here. How are you?

Tommy: Thank you, Jason. I'm doing good.

Me: Where are you from, sir?

Tommy: Originally from Edmonton, Alberta in Canada but I became a naturalized United States citizen in the late 1980s.

Me: Oh, cool. I did not know you were Canadian. I remember hearing about Cheech & Chong when I was a kid growing up on Long Island. I even had a button advertising Next Movie that my dad gave me. I have no idea where I got it. I still have it. I knew back then that you guys did drugs and had it out in my head that was bad. When did you smoke pot? Do you remember?

Tommy: I was in a jazz club. Well, it was the only club in Calgary at the time, it was called the Flat Five. I became a regular and one night this bass player named Raymond Young came up to me, he'd just gotten back from L.A. and he handed me a Lenny Bruce record which I never heard before and a joint... a marijuana cigarette, I put the joint in my pocket immediately and Raymond, he lit up his own and that was the first time I ever smoked marijuana. It changed my life.

Me: I first smoked pot in the 90s... I'm not gonna say where and when.. Haha. It didn't change my life though, how did it change yours?

Tommy: I think the next day I went and quit school because I was doing the typical "I don't know what to do with my life so I might as well go to school." Soon as I smoked that joint I realized I just wanted to play the blues and play music and I couldn't do that while I was in school.

Me: I didn't know you were in a band. Did you have any records out?

Tommy: I sure did. I had a hit record called "Does Your Mama Know About Me."

Me: What was the name of that band?

Tommy: Bobby Taylor & the Vancouvers. Here's a picture of us...


Me: I like the title of that song, sir. Did you write to or someone else? T

Tommy: I wrote a poem, I'm a poet, I write poetry. Tom Baird the arranger, he saw my book of poetry and he picked that one out and said "let me put this to music" and he did and wow... it changed my life.

Me: Did you guys play with anybody big or who I would know back then?

Tommy: Oh, yeah. Actually Jimi Hendrix wanted to sit in. We were playing in England playing in a little club called the Speakeasy and Hendrix showed up. The place was empty until he showed up. He had about 300 people behind him like a pied piper. He walked up to the stage and said, "His there, Tommy." He was talking right to me and I was in shock and he said, "Mind if I sit in?" I said, "No, not at all." So I took off my guitar and gave it to him but he said he plays left handed guitar. He said, "No, I'll play bass." And so he took the bass and he played bass, right handed bass. Jimi's from the old rock and roll rhythm and blues so he knew our band. We were like a big underground hit with the R&B community.

Me: Nice. So, do you remember how you and Cheech first met?

Tommy: No. He was up in Vancouver dodging the draft. He was a landed immigrant actually. He kind of cracked me up actually because he thought some brother must've wrote that song, but it was a Chinese brother, or half-Chinese brother.

Me: How did you two first start to work together?

Tommy: We started off in an improvisational group. It was a troop and there were topless dancers. My brother actually who ran the club, he fired us. We had changed the crowd from a bunch of drunk bikers who threw money at the girls to very sedate theater crowd who would count their change when they ordered their little half a glass of wine. My brother said, "Okay, the show's over, that's it." Everybody else spilt except Cheech. Cheech was the only one standing there looking at me saying, "Well, what are we gonna do?" So Cheech and I formed a band because that's what I always envisioned myself doing which is more music. And Cheech is a singer so we put a band together. But our first gig we just did comedy, we never got around to playing music. When I realized that Cheech and I could be funny, just the two of us then I said "wow." I knew instinctively that we had something. And then when we got a record contract Cheech and I didn't even talk about doing records. It was just that Lou Adler at heard us, heard about us, went to see us and so he called us into his office and he said, "Well, what do you want to do?" And I said, "Well, we want to do a comedy record. Give us some money and a little tape recorder."

Me: I have to show this pic of you both...


Me: So, what was the first skit or piece you ever recorded?

Tommy: When we took that little tape recorder it was the only time we ever rehearsed. We went into a little backroom at the A&M lot and the bit was Cheech was supposed to be a drug dealer and was gonna knock on the door and he was going to come in and we were gonna do this skit. So he went outside and the door locked for inside so he was out in the hot courtyard and he knocked on the door. I said, "Who is it?" He said, "It's me, man, let me in." I was staring at the tape recorder to see if I recorded it but there was no one talking so the needle wasn't moving so I stared at it a long time. And then Cheech knocked again and I saw the needle move, but I also heard the impatience in Cheech's voice. So I wanted to see how long I can keep him out there. So I kept saying, "Who is it?" Finally he said, "It's me Dave." He's making all this stuff up. I said, "Dave?" And I could hear in his voice he said, "Yeah, Dave, man. Now let me in." And when I said, "Dave's not here" oh he blew it. "I'm Dave, man!" Oh, man.

Me: Hahah. What happened when you opened the door finally?

Tommy: When I opened the door he was ready to hit me. He was mad. I said, "Listen, listen, listen." So we played it back over and over and over again and we laughed until we were crying. And we recorded it that night and that's the record that's out now. But the original was much funnier.

Me: So, when did you know that you two were gonna work so well together?

Tommy: That was our ammo from then on, it was a "marriage" made in heaven in a comedy album. 

Me: Do people confuse you with the Tommy Chong you play in movies?

Tommy: Our crowd is not the sharpest knives in the drawers. It's not confusing, that's who they think I am. I don't let them down too much. I love that character and I never change, Cheech has done other characters in other movies, he's a real actor. 

Me: Yeah, he was on "Lost." So, you're not an actor?

Tommy: No, I'm not. I'm just a stoner from Calgary.

Me: So, you're happy that you stayed who you are?

Tommy: Yeah, if it works don't fix it.

Me: I never saw any of the Cheech and Chong movies to be honest. Stoner comedies or whatever they called are not that funny to me but do you think Up In Smoke made pot more acceptable and mainstream back in 1978?

Tommy: Yeah, it did. We took all the drama and the fear out of it. And we made a point of making sure that one of the guys was from a rich family. I wanted to show the gap between the two characters. Here's a guy that lives at home still with his parents and he's a drummer but his whole aim in life is to get high on pot. Then he meets a lowrider and his whole aim is to pick up girls.

Me: So, when you and Cheech perform together now how is it different from back then?

Tommy: Cheech and I started our career by being young guys playing old guys, and now we're old guys playing young guys.

Me: Okay, so I have to ask you what do you think of the legalization of pot?

Tommy: They think pot is alcohol, all the ones that don't know what they're doing, the people in charge. The good news is that it's keeping the underground market alive so that's the really good news.

Me: Do you see the legalization of pot keeping the underground drug dealers going?

Tommy: Well, the restrictions, the stupid restrictions. They're closing down these pot shops because they have to have a license. So, what are these pot shops going to do? Go out of business because it's legal now? They were making a ton of money when it was illegal.

Me: There's a lot of people that went to jail selling or smoking pot, Tommy, and a lot of them aren't white, am I right?

Tommy: Yeah, it's a racist law, it's always been. It was medicine right up until Heart and the boys and Du Pont and all that wanted to get rid of hemp because hemp was big competitor. You couldn't get any products better than hemp products. So Du Poet wanted to get their plastics and all that shit in there and look how that worked out. The whole world is a like a university and racism is one of the main classes everyone has to keep taking until they get to right.

Me: Now that weed is legalized do you think stoner comedies and stoner records will have the same impact?

Tommy: No. Absolutely not. It changes. But if you look at the comedy scene itself the ones that were funny years ago they're not viable anymore. The young kids don't understand. I played a Lenny Bruce recored for my son and he didn't like it, he said take it off. He could not relate to it. Comedy has to be of the times and our time has come and gone. Like I said we were going guys playing old guys now we're old guys playing young guys but you're absolutely right, it's like bellbottoms and long hair, that as a thing of the past and that's the attitude towards pot is going to be.

Me: Good point. Tommy, sir, thanks for being on the Phile. Tell Cheech he needs to come on the Phile as well. All the best. Stay well.

Tommy: Thank you, Jason.




That about does it for this entry of the Phile. Thanks to Tommy Chong for a great interview. The Phile will be back tomorrow with Craig Ferguson. Spread the word, not the turd... or virus. Don't let snakes and alligators bite you. Bye, love you bye.



































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